Team-Call · TeamAtakan & Fatih Patan · Veröffentlicht am 30.09.2025
EcomSniper Insights: Skalierung, Recht & Wachstum mit TeamAtakan · Englische Fassung
Historischer Team-Call mit englischer Tonspur. Sammy, Fatih und TeamAtakan sprechen über Skalierung, rechtliche Grundfragen und effizientere E-Commerce-Prozesse. Aussagen aus dem Gespräch werden als persönliche Erfahrungen eingeordnet; rechtliche Themen, Plattformregeln und wirtschaftliche Entscheidungen müssen aktuell und professionell geprüft werden.
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Diese ältere Aufzeichnung liegt in der auf YouTube bereitgestellten Originalfassung mit englischer Tonspur vor. Das Transkript ist ebenfalls auf Englisch.
Sammy, Fatih und TeamAtakan sprechen über Skalierung, rechtliche Grundfragen und effizientere E-Commerce-Prozesse. Aussagen aus dem Gespräch werden als persönliche Erfahrungen eingeordnet; rechtliche Themen, Plattformregeln und wirtschaftliche Entscheidungen müssen aktuell und professionell geprüft werden.
- Skalierung erst nach stabilen Prozessen und belastbaren Zahlen planen
- rechtliche Aussagen nicht ungeprüft auf den eigenen Fall übertragen
- Tools und Wachstums-Ideen an Kosten, Risiken und echter Wirkung messen
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[00:00] Sami >> Salam alaykum, brother. Can you hear me? >> Now we can hear you, man. Wa alaykum salam wa rahmatullahi. How are you, my dear brother? >> Alhamdulillah. Alhamdulillah. How are you, brothers? >> Alhamdulillah. I'm fine. >> And I'm not very good. >> Got you. So, um Alex and from the group
[00:17] here, who's the oldest member here, yeah? >> The member would be Alex. >> Alex, got you. So, Alex, how you doing, bro? >> I'm fine. Thanks. >> Alex, how long you been here, yeah? >> I've started like end of February. >> Got you. Got you. End of February, yeah. So, this is like um like a couple months
[00:34] now. >> Six months. >> Six months. So, Alex, how how are you doing, bro? How's the results coming on? >> Pretty good. Pretty good. I'm about to create my second account now. Trying to expand my drop shipping business. >> Got you. So, how was um how was the call with Fatih right now? Did you get clarity on how to scale the business?
[00:52] >> Yeah. Fatih has some good insight he's sharing with us. >> Yeah. Yeah, I got you. So, what's So, So, Alex, like what is your plans moving forward, yeah? >> Create more accounts, sell more stuff. That's the plan. >> The most important thing is to know how to do the next step. >> Right.
[01:08] >> Always got a road guys. Always with a plan. That's the most important stuff. >> 100%. And And let me let me share something with you guys like that I see in the US group all the time. There are guys that have been here for 2 years, right? And 2 years went by and they never made the second account. Like we have recorded the history where somebody said that I want I'm going to make my
[01:32] second account and then life just gets in the way and then 2 years go by and they still didn't start the second one. And then they see everybody else moving forward and then it hits them that why didn't I do this earlier? One of the things that I've learned about running this business for a long time is you know the actions that you do today, they pay dividends tomorrow. Time is going to
[01:53] pass by anyways, you might as well like start preparing the road of scale today. And and I think we're all kind of guilty of that. >> Exactly, man. >> Yeah. Alex, like I think 6 months is like a good is a good point to like start uh the second journey. How much are you making on that first account, yeah?
[02:09] >> About 3K a month. >> Like after like uh drove >> After taxes, no, net. >> Nice. Nice. Nice. And how many >> It's a very healthy account, yeah. I only have 2.5K listings, but I have good listings. I try to find the best products and not just list everything, so >> So, you're doing it a completely
[02:25] different >> Yeah, it's a bit different, yeah. >> Got you. You're doing it You're doing it the sniped way or product substitution? >> I started off with sniping a lot. >> Yeah. >> And then I got MC011 because I was doing too well, I guess. Yeah, and then I got out of it, and then I kept sniping because once I got through it, why not
[02:44] keep doing it, right? >> True. Did you try out the product substitution method? Is Is that what you're doing now? >> What's that? Product substitution method? >> Product substitu- No, it's um it's sniping, but you're changing out the main product with a cheaper one, but still using the same
[02:58] >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. I I tried it a couple times and some products. I'm not sure if it's been working. >> Okay. So, So, what's the method that you're using for like if it's not sniping? Or are you sniping? >> Um mostly I'm not listing anymore on my on my account, so that's one thing. I'm basically done with this account. It's just running passively, basically. But
[03:17] yeah, I started off with sniping and I think that's the best method. >> Got you. So, did you So, you basically like the whole item is 2.5K sniped items, yeah? >> 1.5K sniped and 1K bulk listed. And then replacing the items that are not doing well, I'm kicking them out, and then I'm adding new ones >> Nice.
[03:35] Nice. That's an active sport. >> Yeah, I do it like that quite a bit, yeah. >> Right. Yeah, but if like alhamdulillah, like that's that's a good method. One of the things that we were talking about is working on an auto sniper. You know what I mean? >> Damn. >> Right. Now that like the auto order is
[03:51] out, like the fulfilling the orders only takes a couple seconds now. So might as well make like an auto sniper to just bring as many sales as somebody wants, yeah? >> Yeah, sounds good. >> That's the future role model. All right. So Alex, do you like do you have any questions while we're here? >> No, I I asked Fatih already what I
[04:08] wanted to know. >> Got you. Who's like the second oldest member here, yeah? >> The second oldest, Dennis? >> Like how Dennis, how you doing, bro? See you around the the weekly meetings here, yeah? Now they're like how's your how's your eBay accounts going, man? >> So right now pretty well, I guess. I'm just replacing old listings who are not
[04:26] working well with new ones. And today >> that from Alex? >> Yeah, basically from last meeting. So yes, >> Good community, man. >> So there's one bad thing today. I've got my first bad rating from I don't know, we have yesterday got 90 sales in total and today our first bad review. And it says it's too expensive for the quality.
[04:51] I don't know, it's all the bad review says, so >> Uh >> It's not yeah, I guess bad luck. >> No, not bad luck. Like this is going to happen. >> Yeah. >> Right, it's just part of the game. >> Um >> And there's like ways to handle it.
[05:03] >> Yeah, yeah. It's now I'm asking should I ask like the buyer to find a solution together? So my idea was to give him payback some like 30% or something, so he's okay with the price and then he could delete the review. Do you know what I mean? >> 100%. So that's how So the first thing is before you ask him to review like change the review, you ask him that hey,
[05:29] would giving you a 30% discount make you happy? If he says yes, then you give him the discount and then you ask him for the review. Otherwise, if somebody like you refund them their money and he doesn't he's still not happy, he's not going to change the review. We confirm that the offer we give them is going to make them happy first. >> I could
[05:49] translate the text I wanted to send him real quick. I can send it in the chat. Wait a second. So, this is the text I sent him few minutes ago. What do you think about that? >> I I I again, what do you usually do in your this situation? >> I would offer him a discount on the product and the coupon and mix products. >> Okay, so what
[06:07] I ask him is if he wants I don't know how to say it in English a partial payback. So, like 30% of something. Give him from the full price. Do you know what I mean? So, >> Yeah, half refund. Yeah. >> Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's right. >> Bro, the the main thing is you got to like John, how old are you? >> 18.
[06:26] >> Bro, you got to use that to your advantage, man. You got to tell the guy like I'm only 18, bro. They're they're going to feel like they're a bad guy if they leave you a bad review after. >> Yeah, okay. >> Whatever you do, don't sound like a corporation, man. They're going to rip you apart if you do that. >> Yeah, sound human.
[06:42] >> Sound human. >> the text I sent him is not good. So, I should more >> Way too professional, bro. They're going to rip you >> Too long. Too long. More friendly like or something. >> Yeah, literally type it to to talk to the guy, you know, like in a way that you would write it write
[06:59] >> Okay. >> Be super friendly. Like personal. >> Mhm. I understand. >> Otherwise, they're going to You're not going to survive if you if you keep typing like that. They're going to treat you like corporate corporations and they're not going to get the mercy of that small sellers guy.
[07:13] >> I will keep that in mind. >> What what do you What do you What does your group usually do for this? >> Yeah, to be honest, you're right, but sometimes Germany is a little bit different, you know? Sometimes you need the professional side. I mean, beginning I would do the same. But later and do it for us, the most important thing is
[07:33] that end of the day the customer have to be always happy. If the customer is leaving, even if he um, left the bad review, you have to go, uh um, happy. So, the first thing is I would get in contact with him. Maybe first, um, through an email. If not, um, through the telephone. And try to get a solution and try to ask
[07:58] them, um, like, "What do you want? How can I make you happy? >> Exactly. >> You want to have a refund? You want to have a refund? I should do, um, resending the product? Because for me the most important thing is I'm a new seller. I'm just 18 years old. I want to learn. Because because of your bad review, my shop is getting in stuck
[08:21] stuff like that. So, I would clearly talk, um, open with him how to problem like >> Exactly. Exactly. So, do you say I should still call him although I already sent him this message? Because, uh, I didn't think about calling him. >> What if he's not answering? >> Exactly. Okay. All right.
[08:42] >> You'll be okay. >> What's like, um, say if we talk about multi-account and to make like the same name, same everything except the bank on the same device and same Wi-Fi on different Chrome. >> Got you. >> Next time we talk about this. >> Yeah, no, I I I I saw his setup, yeah. I I thought it was so bizarre. Like, I've
[09:01] never I've never seen that before. Like, but like, you know, like I like I've never seen anyone really pull it off. So, that was, uh, that was new to me, too. And I started telling the US community. So, we're going to get some reports back soon if it works in the US. >> Yeah. Didn't try it in the US? >> You know, like like I In the beginning,
[09:20] I told you how I made my accounts. I'm like super conservative. >> No, because it's a easy way if eBay is allowing that, you know. >> Got you. Got you. >> Most people I've seen you know, new accounts sometimes get suspended. Um, the US community, the I Did any of them get suspended while they were making the accounts and they had to
[09:41] re-verify it? >> No, because when we do that, when we create you're getting an assistant. >> You tell the assistant. >> You tell him like, "Hey, I want to scale. I have connection. I got like I'm drop shipping partner." You can show him the contract stuff like that. And then he
[10:01] will make a notice in the system, you know? After that, you are allowed to create multiple accounts. And even if you get problems, you can talk to your assistant, you know? Because one time when I did that, I think account number seven or eight, one of my accounts gets banned. Then I wrote to my eBay assistant, to Astra. I asked to her for an assistance. Two hours later, it was
[10:28] open again. I think the most important stuff here is if you do that, talk before to eBay, to your eBay assistant. Then it's also confirmed in the system. >> It's a crazy idea. That's a really smart way of going about it. Making sure you have the assistant. >> You will not believe us another account started and stuff like that. How many problems? Even we, for example, we can't
[10:53] We were just listing German items, stuff like that. So >> Right. Right. So, Fatih, what's What do you What do you think the people need? Like What What needs to happen? >> As I said, Alex is for example now printing 3K. But in Germany, bro, because of the tax, because of the law, stuff like that. Bro, it's 1 to Yeah, 1
[11:16] net netto after tax, after Umsatzsteuer. >> No, Umsatzsteuer. It's after after tax. >> Ah, it's already after tax. >> Yeah, yeah. >> 4K >> Yeah, okay. >> Yeah. just okay, okay. So I got wrong information. Uh
[11:38] >> Aha. >> It's his cash out after tax. So, thanks God. Alex account is really good performing. But now he's scaling, you know. And even if your account would just print 1K and 1K is easily possible. A lot of people proved that. So, now we are scaling, you know. Now we will focus on account number two after that for release soon
[12:04] feature. So, the part-full-time automation is already done. So, the best thing >> I I think the I think what would give like the highest return would >> Not yet. Also, I mean in my group not yet, but >> Uh Alex Anybody Alex wants to say something?
[12:23] >> Yeah. You just need to download the invoices and then I have to pay the finance amount. Every quarter like a 19% of my profits, right? Minus the >> Uh Bandit, you mind muting your mic? I can't hear Alex for a sec. >> Um and then I can like say how much I've paid in VAT for Amazon for my product
[12:45] and get it back. >> So, they'll they'll actually really bro. >> So, because of that is really important today, Alex. I mean, as you are saying, you can do it, okay? You can do it on your own. You can do it on Adster, okay? >> Yeah. >> Exactly the same I did also in the past, okay? I thought you don't need a tax
[13:10] assistant like a Steuerberater, okay? >> Mhm. >> The problem is also I thought at the beginning, "Ah bro, it's so easy. It's just an invoice you are typing there's a 19% and then I'm getting your my money back, right?" And maybe also you got your also your money back from them. That's the true. But the problem is this is what I
[13:34] learned new from the people in my community. It's because of the German laws. First off, it's not allowed because Amazon is not writing these bills onto your Umsatzsteuer ID, you know? It's the first problem. Do that in Germany. Maybe you can do it 1 year or 2 years latest if you end it's working. If you are getting a Betriebsprüfung, bro, you
[14:02] will get a lot of problems and my community members have told me then you have to pay all the money also back. I have I have verified it, you know? So, because of that for my community also as Sami asked, I mean, at the beginning it sounds like a big problem, right? The thing is it's the Germany law problem because the same problem you will have
[14:30] also with Ali AliExpress invoices. The same problems you will get also with CJ dropshipping stuff like that. It's just if you get an invoice from the German company which is writing from einer Umsatzsteuer ID to your Umsatzsteuer ID. The 19% zurückbekommen. How you can how we can solve that problem in Germany because now we are like focused on that. If you
[14:57] use Amazon Prime Business in Germany, then they are writing an invoice. My advice to the people, please do it with a tax assistant. It's like the same like in AliExpress CJ dropshipping. Even BigBuy, they are also sitting in Luxembourg. With Amazon Prime Business it's working if we know how to create a multiple Amazon Prime Business accounts without getting any problems, without
[15:22] getting banned, stuff like that. Complete clean. You can make also research and tell me then your experience, find another solution, or you got another idea. My story is verified. >> How are you, bro? >> Fine, and you? >> Good. Good. Yeah, Richard, we You're like
[15:40] We we talk about you behind the scenes, man. Yeah, Richard, what what is your opinion on this topic? Because I know you're one of the more experienced e-commerce guys, yeah? >> I'm 100% with Fatih. I see the problem. I don't know about the problem a few weeks ago, but I check the invoices. Fatih's right. If we buy
[16:01] something in Germany, it's no problem, but if we buy something in another country, we have to >> Yeah, I got So, do you think like what Fatih said is just like the worst-case scenario, or cuz like even in the US, you know, people like they file their taxes, right? The only time that it ever goes wrong is when somebody gets audited.
[16:19] >> Yeah. It's It's It's It's risky. As you you work for your own. Think problem with eBay is okay, problem with Amazon is okay, but problem with the law in Germany is not okay. It's the worst case. So, so I have a business account. My business account is running. And I'm I'm not only a dropshipper, I'm a Amazon seller because And that's why I
[16:42] have a It's no problem for me to ship packages for my for my own. And if I have shipping time 1 day from I ship I buy very much things for my for my own for Amazon. Do you know what I mean? >> Got you. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. And and and big product one time I I pay four or five euros and ship on my own, and the customers get it one or two days later. And I think that
[17:06] is good for my account. So, Amazon thinks, "Okay." I think I think Amazon knows everything. If I had a child 1 year, Amazon told me, "You need something for the child. Now he's 6 year old. Amazon knows how old my kid is. Amazon knows everything. Amazon wedding day Amazon I this is what I think.
[17:27] >> 100% man. >> Yes, yes, yes. It's it's a cat and dog game.
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